It’s no secret thatJ.J. Abramswas approached early on in the director search forStar Wars: Episode VII, at which point he quickly—and politely—said “no”. Lucasfilm presidentKathleen Kennedycontinued to speak with other directors, but it seems as though Abrams was always the favorite to land the gig, and so she went back to the filmmaker once more, after which he ultimately accepted the gig. But it wasn’t without some nudging—Lawrence Kasdanrecently revealed that he was enlisted to speak with Abramsto convince him to sign on. So why was Abrams so hesitant to directStar Wars? Didn’t he admit that he agreed to helmStar Treksimply because it was the closest thing he’d get to making aStar Warsmovie? Well it turns out even blockbuster filmmakers can suffer from blockbuster fatigue.

Speaking withHoward Sternon his radio show, Abrams said he declined theEpisode VIIgig because he was tired of making sequels:

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“I said ‘No’. I didn’t want to do a sequel. I’d done aMission: Impossiblemovie; I’d doneStar Trek. I didn’t wanna do another sequel—I’m sick of movies with numbers… As a fan, I’d rather just go to the theater and watch the movie.”

That’s fair. At that point in time, Abrams had only made one original film—Super 8—and he admits now that the finished product didn’t completely live up to his expectations, so one can imagine the desire to go off and make something wholly original afterStar Trek Into Darkness. But as we know, Abrams eventually relented. So what turned him around?

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“Kathy [Kennedy] said can we get together, and so we sat down and we just started talking aboutStar Wars. We just started talking about what this thing could be, and as we were talking about it I found myself suddenly on fire… When Kathy and I started talking about these characters, the idea that Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia—this is 40 years ago, so for someone who’s 19 years old, they’re myths. Who knows what they know about them? People wouldn’t even know, maybe, who some of these characters are.”

Abrams continued, relating the exact moment that lit a fire in him that propelled the entire story forThe Force Awakens:

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“And the thing that got me, that grabbed me, was that feeling of a new, young character—in the case of this conversation it was a female character, didn’t know anything about her, but in the conversation that question of this young woman asking, ‘Who is Luke Skywalker?’, I don’t know why but it made me feel like, ‘Fuck that’s so cool!’ That there would be a discovery, these would be essentially kids who didn’t seeStar Warsthemselves who would be in this universe. The idea of sort of rediscovering this world.”

This was actually one of the aspects ofThe Force Awakensthat came as a surprise to many, that the characters in the film—in this caseDaisy Ridley’s Rey andJohn Boyega’s Finn—don’t really know much about Luke, Han, and Leia. They’re discovering much of it for the first time, and as we saw in the final trailer, they’re finding out that these mythic stories about “The Force” are “all true.”

To treat the Original Trilogy as legend in the context ofThe Force Awakensnot only works on a subtextual level, relating to audience members who are so passionate about this universe and these original characters, but it’s also a smart storytelling device that adds a rich history and background to the proceedings that are unfolding. I’m incredibly curious to see how much this tiny nugget of an idea influenced the full film when it’s finally unveiled on December 18th.

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